Apr 4, 2022 • 1HR 11M

Ep#187 - Katy Montgomerie and Debbie Hayton debate gender and trans rights.

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Stephen Knight
The Godless Spellchecker Podcast is an award winning weekly sceptical/atheistic show in a conversational, interview format hosted by Stephen Knight. We hear from leading public figures as well as people without a public profile that have equally valuable experiences and ideas to share. The goal is to amplify good ideas and scrutinise bad ones. The motto of the show is: "I think we've all learned something here today".
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This week on The Knight Tube, Stephen Knight (@Gspellchecker) is joined by Katy Montgomerie (@KatyMontgomerie) and Debbie Hayton (@DebbieHayton). Katy is an LGBT and atheist activist and Debbie is a journalist and physics teacher. They are both are transgender women; however they have very different opinions on the major talking points related to gender and trans rights.

0:00 Intro 1:11 What is a woman? Is there an objective definition? Should we be invoking intersex people in this argument? 21:34 Is sex binary? 23:20 Is Katy male or female? 29:06 What rights would trans people lose if they identified as ‘gender non-confirming’ instead of the opposite sex?   31:47 Why does this conversation always focus on women? Are women justified to fear an encroachment on their rights? What are the safeguarding concerns? 37:27 Can you change your sex? 40:12 The problem of men talking about what it means to be female 41:02 Is it mostly men that have concerns with self-ID/trans issues? 43:34 The WDI declaration and use of women’s spaces. 50:52 India Willoughby, misgendering and the chilling effect on free speech. 1:02:53 Final questions to each other Support the podcast at http://www.patreon.com/gspellchecker

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